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ksjs
Alive and Kicking grade
Aug 3 2009, 4:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 4 2009, 4:12 AM EDT
getting a bit tired of saying the same thing on here: this is not a sport route. a fall from the crux wouldnt be nice. regardless of the outcome of a fall here, sport, its generally accepted, is where youre not thinking about fall consquences / cruxes are protected / any fall, if long, is safe. arguably all 3 criteria are missed here. also, the run out to the belay isnt consistent with sport. this 'giving trad routes sport grades' is really misleading. the route is E2 5b/c. Do you find this valuable?    
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